Libertarians
for Life - Why the Embryo or Fetus Is Not a Parasite is
a sham, pro-life-schizophrenic-fascist site...here's why (written as a response
from a forum):
"1. a) A parasite is
defined as an organism of one species living in or on an organism of another
species (a heterospecific relationship) and deriving its nourishment from the
host (is metabolically dependent on the host). (See Cheng, T.C., General
Parasitology, p. 7, 1973.)"
Wrong, like I posted
before:
‘"It is also
possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same
species."
http://www.answers.com/topic/symbiosis -- Gale's
Science of Everyday Things.
just like a parasitic
twin --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitic_twin
"an animal or plant
that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The
host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it"
your site omitted
symbiotic intraspecific relationships, like parasitic twins and the woman/fetus
relationship:
“When
individuals of the same species parasitize individuals of the same species,
they are referred to as intraspecific parasites.”
"This homospecific
relationship is an obligatory dependent relationship, but not a parasitic
relationship."
LOL! THAT SENTENCE RIGHT THERE
PROVES THE FETUS IS A PARASITE:
"obligate parasite (obligatory parasite) one that is
entirely dependent upon a host for its survival."
"2. a) A parasite is
an invading organism -- coming to parasitize the host from an outside source. (b)
A human embryo or fetus is formed from a fertilized egg -- the egg coming from
an inside source, being formed in the ovary of the mother from where it moves
into the oviduct where it may be fertilized to form the zygote -- the first
cell of the new human being.
THE ZYGOTE IS A FOREIGN
OBJECT ( A NEW ORGANISM) TO THE WOMAN'S BODY BECAUSE OF THE MAN'S DNA.
Why do you think the
zygote has to invade the woman’s body with its TROPHOBLAST CELLS and then,
hijack the woman’s immune system to survive?
http://galerouth.blogspot.com/2012/02/welcome-to-enlightenment-enjoy.html --- to see how the human fetus is a
parasite according to science.
"an animal or plant
that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The
host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it"
3. a) A parasite is
generally harmful to some degree to the host that is harboring the parasite. (b) A human embryo or fetus developing in the uterine cavity
does not usually cause harm to the mother, although it may if proper nutrition
and care is not maintained by the mother.
pregnancy CAUSES HARM: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
4. a) A parasite makes
direct contact with the host's tissues, often holding on by either mouth parts,
hooks or suckers to the tissues involved (intestinal lining, lungs, connective
tissue, etc.).
b) A human embryo or fetus makes direct contact with the uterine lining of the mother for only a short period of time.
b) A human embryo or fetus makes direct contact with the uterine lining of the mother for only a short period of time.
Well, that’s just
fucking stupid-- the time span shouldn’t matter, but its actions reaction
relating to the woman’s body. Again, you just proved the human fetus is a
parasite; anyways, google the function of TROPHOBLAST CELLS.
It soon becomes isolated
inside its own amniotic sac, and from that point on makes indirect contact with
the mother only by way of the umbilical cord and placenta.
WELL, THAT'S STUPID BECAUSE
THE PLACENTA IS PART OF THE FETUS!
5. a) When a parasite
invades host tissue, the host tissue will sometimes respond by forming a
capsule (of connective tissue) to surround the parasite and cut it off from
other surrounding tissue (examples would be Paragonimus westermani, lung fluke,
or Oncocerca volvulus, a nematode worm causing cutaneous filariasis in the
human).
b) When the human embryo or fetus attaches to and invades the lining tissue of the mother's uterus, the lining tissue responds by surrounding the human embryo and does not cut it off from the mother, but rather establishes a means of close contact (the placenta) between the mother and the new human being.
YOUR ARTICLE ADMITTED THAT THE FETUS INVADED!
b) When the human embryo or fetus attaches to and invades the lining tissue of the mother's uterus, the lining tissue responds by surrounding the human embryo and does not cut it off from the mother, but rather establishes a means of close contact (the placenta) between the mother and the new human being.
YOUR ARTICLE ADMITTED THAT THE FETUS INVADED!
I LIKE I SAID BEFORE:
The placenta functions as an immunological barrier between the mother and the
fetus, creating an immunologically privileged site. For this purpose, it uses
several mechanisms:
It secretes Neurokinin B
containing phosphocholine molecules. This is the same mechanism used by
parasitic nematodes to avoid detection by the immune system of their
host.[2]"
" Due to its
highly-negative charge, hCG may repel the immune cells of the mother,
protecting the fetus during the first trimester. It has also been hypothesized
that hCG may be a placental link for the development of local maternal
immunotolerance."
slmccoy
April 5, 2012 at 6:00 pm, from the
shut down |http:www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/abortion/
"The woman’s immune system can
attack the embryo and placenta via attack T-cells, blood complement, and
antibodies. The embryo signals the placenta to produce INDOLEAMINE 2, 3-DIOXYGENASE, which catabolizes the tryptophan in the woman’s body.
Starved of this necessary amino acid, the attack T-cells have to go into
latency to survive, though the woman’s blood complement and antibodies can
continue to attack."
THE SEARCH FOR LINKS BETWEEN IMMUNOGENETIC FACTORS AND
RECURRENT MISCARRIAGE.
“Decidual macrophages produce IL-10 and tryptophan
catabolizing enzyme indoleamine 2, 3-dioxygenase (IDO) (Heikkinen et al.
2003). IDO is one of those molecules that may suppress maternal T-cell
activation. Inhibition of IDO in mice, especially in allogeneic mating
combinations, results in fetal rejection with lethalinflammatory response, with
T-cell infiltration and activation of complement. “
6. a) When a parasite invades a host, the host will
usually respond by forming antibodies in response to the somatic antigens
(molecules comprising the body of the parasite) or metabolic antigens
(molecules secreted or excreted by the parasite) of the parasite. Parasitism
usually involves an immunological response on the part of the host. (See Cheng,
T.C., General Parasitology, p. 8.)
b) New evidence, presented by Beer and Billingham in their article, "The Embryo as a Transplant" (Scientific American, April, 1974), indicates that the mother does react to the presence of the embryo by producing humoral antibodies,but they suggest that the trophoblast -- the jacket of cells surrounding the embryo -- blocks the action of these antibodies and therefore the embryo or fetus is not rejected. This reaction is unique to the embryo-mother relationship.
b) New evidence, presented by Beer and Billingham in their article, "The Embryo as a Transplant" (Scientific American, April, 1974), indicates that the mother does react to the presence of the embryo by producing humoral antibodies,but they suggest that the trophoblast -- the jacket of cells surrounding the embryo -- blocks the action of these antibodies and therefore the embryo or fetus is not rejected. This reaction is unique to the embryo-mother relationship.
SO LIKE A
PARASITE, THE ZYGOTE HAS MECHANISMS TO STOP IT FORM BEING KILLED, BECAUSE
IT'S A FOREIGN OBJECT AND AN INVADER.
7. a) A parasite is generally detrimental to the reproductive capacity of the invaded host. The host may be weakened, diseased or killed by the parasite, thus reducing or eliminating the host's capacity to reproduce.
b) A human embryo or fetus is absolutely essential to the reproductive capacity of the involved mother (and species).
DUH!
The mother is usually not
weakened, diseased or killed by the presence of the embryo or fetus, but rather
is fully tolerant of this offspring which must begin his or her life in this
intimate and highly specialized relationship with the mother.
WOW, THAT'S A COP-OUT,
READ THE LINKS THAT I ALREADY POSTED. WTF, ARE THE RF-FACTORS PROBLEMS ABOUT?
8. a) A parasite is an
organism that, once it invades the definitive host, will usually remain with
host for life (as long as it or the host survives).
b) A human embryo or fetus has a temporary association with the mother, remaining only a number of months in the uterus.
b) A human embryo or fetus has a temporary association with the mother, remaining only a number of months in the uterus.
“parasite [par´ah-sīt] 1. a plant or animal that lives upon or within another living organism at whose expense it obtains some advantage; see also symbiosis. Parasites include multicelled and single-celled animals, fungi, and bacteria, and some authorities also include viruses.Those that feed upon human hosts can cause diseases ranging from the mildly annoying to the severe or even fatal. (See accompanying table.)
